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, but treating affects down here. and the most dramatic example of that, of course, is stuxnet which detroit about 1000 centrifuges. stuxnet almost what i conducted by a nationstate because it's too complicated to be done in a garage or in your basement, all right? look, given my background, former director of cia, i think it's absolute unavoidable good. but i'll describe what i just described to you in just like they did forward. somewhat almost certain initiative during a time of these just use a cyber weapon to destroy another nation's critical infrastructure. ouch. that's a big deal. you may or may not see me making a comment on 60 mins about a year and a half ago in which i can characterize that as somebody crossing a river gone, got a leaking on the other side of the river, and life will be very different. so those are your sins. stealing your stuff, disrupting the network, destroying their infrastructure. who are the sinners? nationstates. you know that. criminal elements, and then finally this third group that it would have trouble defining, nihilists, anarchists, activists, losec, a
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